This is a thing that happened.
Dianne Harris and I had this nice argument with the radio.
Schafly stand-in: Should women be forced to register for the draft?
D&W, in union: yes!
Schafly stand-in: Are we all the same, or are women different in law from men?
D&W, in union: Same!
William, under his breath: We hold these truths to be self-evident....
Schafly stand-in: Are we going to force women away from their babies to go to front lines?
D&W, in union: Yes!
Dianne: What, its ok to separate men from their babies but not women? You are against equal rights because you want special rights.
I am not a fan of this political philosophy. If anyone wants to tell me why it is a virtuous position, I'll ask questions until I understand it.
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Realization: Her son is the founder of conservapedia, which is maybe the worst thing on the internet.
ReplyDeleteThe draft, or equal rights?
ReplyDeleteMo Jave Whats you mean?
ReplyDeleteBoth!
ReplyDeleteNot a fan of which political political philosophy?
ReplyDeleteOh! I'm not a fan of Phyllis Schlafly's conservative political philosophy.
ReplyDeleteAh!
ReplyDeleteI didn't know she maybe personally defeated the ERA. That makes me dislike her even more than I already did.
ReplyDeleteYeah! If we're going to have a draft (we probably shouldn't), then let's draft blind to sex.
ReplyDeleteIf we're going to have human rights (we probably should), then let's have those blind to sex.
There are some nuances, and places where I admit my own wisdom is minimal, but in that general direction.
Robert Bohl That's maybe the worst thing she accomplished, yeah.
ReplyDeleteAnd one of her sons is gay. I can't imagine the kind of special hell he went through.
ReplyDeleteYeah. Poor kid.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the kid thing is a stupid argument. The draft already has baked in accounting for hardship deferments. Even if we decide that there is a period of time where it poses a specific hardship to a child for a mother to be gone (I could see arguments being made for 0-6 months based on breastfeeding and such, though am not sure where I'd fall on them) - then there's an exception process already there to enact. But when we're saying that we can't draft a mom because her 10yo would have to be taken care of by dad? WFT?
ReplyDeleteMo Jave Agreed. The draft in the US applies to those aged 18 to 25, so the argument isn't quite so absurd as a ten year old. Its still a terrible argument, as it relies on the notion that all women are mothers.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Mo Jave . I understand women have fought in military conflicts before?
ReplyDeleteHave you heard something about that?
And that men aren't capable or worthy of looking after their own damn kids, or that the state would prefer that they don't.
ReplyDeleteThe implication behind the question really is: Are you sure you want to send a mother off to war? Then the dad might have to baby mind, and we'd be losing our most valuable industrial commodity to domestic tasks.
William Nichols Ha! NON POSSIBLE!
ReplyDeleteMo Jave And its not like a woman could be in a factory! OH NOES.
ReplyDeleteMore seriously: we're more than our bits, and one of the many central problems with "traditional values" is it reduces people to one of two binary categories, and ignores all other variables save age.
ReplyDeleteYep, and totally stratifies our understanding of labour value, capacity and contribution.
ReplyDeleteRead up on Russian snipers during WW2. Still some of the bravest, courageous soldiers in any war and a lot of them women. The issue is both parents being drafted at the same time. Or one parent being deceased. Long term the argument will be moot with the increase in robotic warfare and drones. Unless we go to war with China, there won't be need for that many soldiers.
ReplyDeletejason white And having a kid sounds like a great reason to not be drafted. Being a woman, though? Hardly the same thing.
ReplyDeleteIn the draft rules, the draft couldn't leave a child parentless anyways (as in, if a single father was raising a child, he was exempt from the draft), so drafting both parents wouldn't be an issue. The draft would come up for one partner, and then the other partner would be exempt.
ReplyDeletejason white if you get a chance, also check out their female pilots, tankers, and front line soldiers. Fascinating stuff!
ReplyDeleteMo Jave Is there a gaming anthology where I could learn more about women in wars?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Nichols why yes there is! You can find out more at http://www.unrulydesigns.com/ (it should FINALLY be available for delivery on October).
ReplyDeleteI wasn't self-promoting though! Just obsessed. ;)
Mo Jave Its definitely fine for you to self promote! You've done a lot of work telling stories that go untold, raising awareness, and produced a product!
ReplyDeleteAnd, of course, I literally asked for it. At least two of my favorite Dreamation games were Warbirds, I'm better for having played them.
Are you coming to Metatopia William Nichols ? There will be at least two and maybe three new War Birds games in playtest then. :)
ReplyDeleteI'm out of my con budget for the year, Mo Jave .
ReplyDeleteWhat's on playtest?
William Nichols Alas! The very excellent Kimberley Lam is bringing her Blood is Thick about the aftermath of the Khmer Rouge, and I have two in development with with partners in crime. One about the diverse impact of WWII nurses, one about a peaceful protest challenging the Reich on the deportation of Jewish men in the heart of Berlin in 1943. Both not quite named.
ReplyDeleteMo Jave This just popped up in my feeds. We Were WASP was one of the games I played at Dreamation.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/female-wwii-pilot-finally-be-laid-rest-arlington/nsSbC/