New Yorkers!
I am fantasizing about moving to your fine city. This is very unlikely!
I went and looked up brownstones in Brooklyn. I found this:
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/abo/5943327153.html
The question: Is this a terrible price, or a pretty typical price?
If you are not currently conversed in the new york city housing market, feel free to comment and talk, but please leave the poll for those in the 5 to 8 Burroughs area.
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I'm not an expert on Brooklyn (Queens represent!) But Park Slope is known as a more expensive part of the city. There are likely similar brownstones in other neighborhoods for a slightly more reasonable price. (Reasonable being relative in all things NYC real estate related)
ReplyDeleteThanks, Angela Craft !
ReplyDeletePretty sure I've heard the words "park slope" before, so i should know it is expensive!
This is what I found within a few minutes, not putting a cap on price and saying "Brownstone".
It is slightly better than I expected; years and years in DC have apparently inoculated me against even bigger city prices!
Ignoring money for a moment, Angela Craft , would Park Slope be a reasonable place to live for a subway commute to fifth avenue and 23rd?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Nichols The Flatiron District is an awesome neighborhood for commuting from pretty much anywhere in the city (I worked in the neighborhood for almost 7 years). It'd be about a 30-35 minute commute from Park Slope, which feels like a reasonable commute to me - that's about how far it was for me from Queens. I'm now over an hour from my new job in the Financial District, and it's the one downside of the job (and/or living in Queens, depending on your POV)
ReplyDeleteAngela Craft Thanks, again! Where in Queens would be awesome? Where do you recommend?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Nichols I'm a big fan of Forest Hills and the surrounding neighborhoods - not a big nightlife scene but I'm more than okay with that. Still some good food plus all the necessities in the area, and good subway access. If you want to be somewhere cooler (and closer to Manhattan), Long Island City or Astoria are the neighborhoods to research.
ReplyDeleteThat apartment listing and the place itself looks pretty normal for the market in the park slope area. Commuting to the flat iron is easy and quick from anywhere, so don't confine yourself to one of the most trendy and expensive area in the city.
ReplyDeleteI was looking all around for apartments about 2 years ago and ended up with a place I love in West Harlem, 2br/1ba on the ABCD line for $1900/mo. Would take 30 minutes to get to the flat iron from my place. You can get similar rent prices in Astoria, Hoboken, Jersey City, etc for a slightly more difficult commute. For 3k you can also live in some trendier places in Manhattan (UWS, village, etc).
You might also consider Greenpoint/Williamsburgh (Brooklyn), reachable by walking south from 23rd to 14th (8-10 minutes) and taking the L line subway, optionally changing to the G, and Sunnyside (Queens), which is the more tree-lined eastern aspect of Long Island City, also about 30 minutes to work via the R train.
ReplyDeleteAngela Craft Forest Hills. Cool.
ReplyDeleteDaniel Estrada No decisions yet! This is fantasy land! West Harlem, you say!
... Wait. The Bars. They close ... never?
ReplyDeleteThis looks gorgeous. Am I crazy?
ReplyDeletehttps://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/abo/5899305078.html
That apartment is very nice, and it's smack in the middle of the explosive gentrification happening in that part of Harlem. They are installing a Whole Foods and the whole shebang.
ReplyDeleteThe subway access isn't the most convenient, and there are still some rough parts in that area. But the place itself looks really nice!
Ohhh, Whole Foods.
ReplyDeleteIts 600+ a month cheaper than the first, for about the same space. The commute in the first is a lot better, but it may have more stairs.
Alright, what if i want to find a unit in a big apartment building? Why can't I find one of them?
Sunset Park, where I live, I have a 2-bedroom for $2K/month, but Park Slope is swanky as fuck. I think all the white families move there.
ReplyDeleteHow is your subway access, Robert Bohl ?
ReplyDeleteReally good, William. I have a local train (albeit the lowest-rated, the R) within 2 blocks one way and 5 the other, and there's two expresses on the same line (N and D) that are a 15-20 minute walk. I usually get into work in lower Manhattan within a half hour to 40 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI'm so spoiled. The metro is outside our door, and my job is 2 blocks from metro.
ReplyDeleteOn the upside, that Park Slope apartment is literally a few blocks down the avenue from us! On the downside, you will definitely find better deals not in this neighborhood (which has solidly returned to its upper class roots at this point, it's not even gentrification anymore). We only live here because I bought my apartment a long time ago.
ReplyDeleteThis is Park Slope: theonion.com - Report: Nation's Gentrified Neighborhoods Threatened By Aristocratization
This is barely satire. Gentrification has been nuts.
I have friends who live on that block in Harlem! It's lovely and just around the corner from the 2/3 trains, and gentrifying like wow.
Long Island City, Sunnyside, and Astoria are the Queens neighborhoods nearest/most accessible to Manhattan. Jackson Heights, a little further out, might be another good place to look. Forest Hills feels a little more remote but has the benefit of a LIRR station for when the E/F/R trains are messed up—especially since they often don't punch your ticket! My coworker took about 15 rides on one LIRR ticket this fall...
The nice thing about New York is that the transit system is so extensive that you often have lots of options when your usual train is disrupted. (Though this is less true further out into the boroughs...)
Also, it's definitely a walking city. You get used to walking here—walking home, walking to the grocery store, walking to a friend's house, walking to your favorite pizza place that does a better grandma slice, walking 5 extra blocks to a different train, and so on—and soon it starts to feel like no big deal. (Though obviously it's still nice to live close to the subway, but to me "close" is like less than 4 street blocks.)
If you're looking for bigger (new) apartment buildings, you might want to look at LIC or downtown Brooklyn, which have been exploding with high rises. If you're looking for bigger (older) apartment buildings, you'll generally find those along the east edge of Manhattan, and out in various parts of Queens.
Thanks, New Yorkers!
ReplyDeleteThe fantasizing has moved to the next step, which is probably the last step. If I ask about this again, then that step moved to yet another one -- which would surprise me.
Was that confusing? That was probably confusing! Point is, I am probably done with this fantasy. Thank you all for helping!
I hope the unexpected happens. It'd be nice to hang out more.
ReplyDeleteWould you still like me if i lived in Park Slope?
ReplyDeleteProbably. We'll see.
ReplyDelete(I've become like Carol Kane's character in Kimmy Schmidt lately.)