Oh, right, my favorite part! The IRS can't just put the tax table formula on the damn 1040A, they have to make me look up a DIFFERENT TABLE. And then I have to manually do a vlookup. THIS IS DUMB.
Huh. A bunch back. We must've done a few things wrong this year, as that is TOO MUCH.
That being said: the math is done in 25 minutes. I'm going to have some more fun to see if separete saved us money (it won't!), but that's basically it.
Now, I just fill out a form with numbers I already have in a spreadsheet. Do the same for state (Easier!), mail it out and wait.
So, yeah. Taxes are quick. And fun!
Seriously, this is like building a 4e character, but then you get money!
Doing my taxes were easier than building a 4e character. I'm not sure who to be more disappointed in: Wizards of the Coast, or americans who pay $500 for someone else to do their taxes.
Or, i guess, H&R block for not getting the IRS to make it hard?
Robert Bohl Oh, the ux designers of the forms seem stuck about 30 yuears in the past. "Subtract B from A". That's bullshit.
... a few weeks ago, I played Nights Black Angels and was shocked at the badness of the character sheets. Then AW2 sheets were sent to my inbox, and they are glorious.
This is similar. We need some good game designer to redo the 1040. Because this is bullshit.
(Also, we don't make a quarter million. That's some advanced wishful thinking.)
Our tax rate is pretty low! And the form is pretty simple to fill out -- in all seriousness, I have had more difficulty with character sheets.
I guess I don't understand why there is such disdain around doing the taxes (its easy and quick!), nor why there is an entire industry that exists to do taxes for you.
Ryan Good Yeah, home ownership means itemizing, and that definitely ups the difficulty. Still, I think there's something important to understanding the player facing rules.
Step 1: Beer.
ReplyDeleteStep 2: Netflix
Step 3: Get out all the pieces of paper.
Step 4: Start a spreadsheet for FUN.
ReplyDeleteDr. Cox is hilarious, scrubs is delightful.
ReplyDeleteYou are a sick sick man.
ReplyDeleteOh hey, we made a decent amount of money. That's exciting!
ReplyDeleteSTUDENT LOANS ARE GOOD FOR SOMETHING/.
ReplyDeleteWho wrote this character sheet? WHY is 22 equal to 21? This is some bizarre 4e 2e right here.
ReplyDeleteSubtract 24 FROM 22? Who writes like this?
ReplyDeleteOh, right, my favorite part! The IRS can't just put the tax table formula on the damn 1040A, they have to make me look up a DIFFERENT TABLE. And then I have to manually do a vlookup. THIS IS DUMB.
ReplyDeleteHuh. A bunch back. We must've done a few things wrong this year, as that is TOO MUCH.
ReplyDeleteThat being said: the math is done in 25 minutes. I'm going to have some more fun to see if separete saved us money (it won't!), but that's basically it.
Now, I just fill out a form with numbers I already have in a spreadsheet. Do the same for state (Easier!), mail it out and wait.
So, yeah. Taxes are quick. And fun!
Seriously, this is like building a 4e character, but then you get money!
HEY GUESS WHAT? I had an old version of the tax table. I get even more back. this is ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteI need a second beer. This is thirsty work.
ReplyDeleteI got a beer, ate some carrots, drank some beer and filled out the form in 8 minutes. That's weird.
ReplyDeleteThere is a SIX DOLLAR difference between married jointly and (married separately and single). WE HAVE A MARRIAGE PENALTY!
ReplyDeleteNext up: STATE
ReplyDelete"YOU BLIND" -- that is not ok english, Virginia.
ReplyDeleteVIRGINIA, where is the damn tax table? I don't want the formula, I want the required table. WHGERE IS IT
ReplyDeleteAH HAH. If we file separately, we'd pay $8 less in FEDERAL, but $59 MORE in state. So, we have a $51 BENEFIT from being married.
ReplyDeleteHOORAY FOR MARRIAGE!
Ryan Good Do you NEVER enjoy filling out arbitrary forms, assigning point values, and determining the most bestest course of action?
ReplyDeleteThat is, don't you play traditional RPGs?
DR COX, yes enjoy the crush! Just don't bang the other lady.
ReplyDeleteMy version involved a lot more cursing.
ReplyDeleteWhy, Robert Bohl ?
ReplyDeleteBecause it's me. It's also how I deal with tech problems, which means thank god my work places have been permissive or I've had my own office.
ReplyDeleteTURK, don't eat fondant! NOOOOOO!
ReplyDeleteAll in all, we are making a boat load on the taxes. Or, more precisely: our withholding was way too much this year.
ReplyDeleteRobert Bohl Do you enjoy the cursing?
ReplyDeleteSo, overall, approx a 16% federal tax rate. Are we poor?
ReplyDeleteI printed out 20 copies of the 1040 and I did it right the FIRST TIME? COME ON TAXES BE HARDER!
ReplyDeleteDoing my taxes were easier than building a 4e character. I'm not sure who to be more disappointed in: Wizards of the Coast, or americans who pay $500 for someone else to do their taxes.
ReplyDeleteOr, i guess, H&R block for not getting the IRS to make it hard?
William Nichols - It's to bleed off anger. So, yeah? Sorta?
ReplyDeleteanger at what?
ReplyDeleteNot understanding things, myself for making mistakes, the programmers for making it badly, the UX designers for not doing their jobs right, etc.
ReplyDeleteI haven't even gotten all my forms yet :(
ReplyDeletePatty Kirsch They are supposed to've sent them by the end of January! That is not right!
ReplyDeleteRobert Bohl Oh, the ux designers of the forms seem stuck about 30 yuears in the past. "Subtract B from A". That's bullshit.
ReplyDelete... a few weeks ago, I played Nights Black Angels and was shocked at the badness of the character sheets. Then AW2 sheets were sent to my inbox, and they are glorious.
This is similar. We need some good game designer to redo the 1040. Because this is bullshit.
It's not. One place is basically aggregating so I can kinda forgive them but I don't know what happened to our w2s.
ReplyDeleteluke crane for tax form redesign.
ReplyDeletePatty Kirsch I am sorry! Would you like to do some estimates? I'd be happy to play around.
ReplyDeleteThat's OK, but in a couple weeks I may want to partake of whatever it is that's making you so enthusiastic about doing taxes ;)
ReplyDeletePatty Kirsch in a couple weeks, I'll have my thousands of dollars from the IRS.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, filling out forms? Putting numbers in boxes and having them add or subtract from other numbers? Having it resolve into a single number?
How is this NOT making an RPG character?
luke crane !
ReplyDeletePretty sure that if we made a quarter million, our tax rate would only be about 22%. That seems perfectly reasonable!
ReplyDelete(Also, we don't make a quarter million. That's some advanced wishful thinking.)
ReplyDeleteOur tax rate is pretty low! And the form is pretty simple to fill out -- in all seriousness, I have had more difficulty with character sheets.
I guess I don't understand why there is such disdain around doing the taxes (its easy and quick!), nor why there is an entire industry that exists to do taxes for you.
When I was able to do the 1040ez I did it on paper. Now we just ge turbotax and it's a breeze.
ReplyDeleteRyan Good Yeah, home ownership means itemizing, and that definitely ups the difficulty. Still, I think there's something important to understanding the player facing rules.
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