Friday, August 31, 2018

Help me out, lazywebs, while I try to figure this out:

Help me out, lazywebs, while I try to figure this out:

XOR
AND
OR

Can I use these three to get to NAND or a NOR gate?

In other words: Are those three a complete logic?
In other words: Does the automation in Oxygen not included include a complete logic?

Update: not is included. We're in business.

14 comments:

  1. You are all about saving your Duplicants labor, aren’t you?

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  2. With NOT plus AND, I can get NAND. With NAND, I have a complete logic and can do whatever I want.

    I am pretty sure I could build a register within Oxygen not included.

    With a register, I could build (more) registers. Then, I can build a computer.

    Which I could use to simulate a windows computer running oxygen not included.*

    *Don't do this.

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  3. I'm mostly researching. I haven't even done automation in the game. I just wondered, and then boom ... a turing complete language.

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  4. (A). Pretty sure they have a register at the higher tech levels, and (b) the finite size of the asteroid saves us from many (though by no means all) temptations to madness.

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  5. I'm fairly sure that real world computer chips only use NAND gates and they build all the other gates from those.

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  6. Obviously, that's not a lot of use of you don't have NAND gates...

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  7. This is (essentially) true, Brian Ashford

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  8. Okay, up until this point I had no idea "Oxygen Not Included" was a computer game. I thought it must have been reporting on a pen/paper RPG campaign, or some sort of science fiction nano-fic writing or something.


    Anyways, you can get what you want from XOR, AND, OR, assuming you have 1, or at least you have a large number of inputs so that at least one of them will be 1.

    If you have 1, then NOT X is simply 1 XOR X.

    If you don't have 1, but you have a lot of inputs so that at least one of them will be 1, then you first create a "mostly 1" with:

    A OR B OR C OR D OR E OR F OR ...

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  9. William Nichols I think someone told me that once in 1995. Brains are awesome.

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  10. Isaac Kuo thanks for that! As the game has not, were in business.

    This game is like SimCity in space. Sort of.

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  11. I would describe it almost as dwarf fortress in space.

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  12. Mate, even though I got nothing to add, I want to thank you for giving me a small exercise. Tried to do it (without the "not"), but I think there's no way, if you don't have a 1 somewhere.

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