a pm: I need you to invite me to your standups, planning sessions, and retro.
Me: silence.
My boss: Wait. The fucking daily standups?
PM: Yes. I need to be invited to everything.
Me, later, offhand to the pm: I don't think it's a good idea for any management to be at a standup.
Her: I need to be there.
Me: The point of that meeting is not to inform management. You being there changes the meeting.
Her: You assume I'll interfere.
Me: No. I assume that your presence will change things.
She's likely to be at tomorrow's. If so, I expect she's going to fucking ruin everything.
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The voice of temptation:
ReplyDelete“I need to be there.”
‘Then you have a problem, because you aren’t invited. If you show up anyway then I will have a problem, and I will solve it.”
Ugh.
ReplyDeleteWow, how utterly wrong she is!
ReplyDeleteThat said, product management /can/ be at standups, but shouldn’t speak (pig/chicken thing). They can be at planning, bug /really/ shouldn’t- from what you’ve said about your org, your design folks need to be.
And if any manager ever insisted they needed to be in a retro, I would laugh them on fire.
Agreed. If she's at the retro, then I will simply hold a separate retro.
ReplyDeleteI've been following this, so I'm curious how the meeting went and if she showed up?
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