Great big spaceship with logs of guns, intended for fighting.
Never understood why Galactica was a "Battlestar". It didn't have much in the way of weaponry and was intended to find and colonize The Twelfth Planet.
The guns are hot, the hull is ringing, The engines sing the sound of triumph; And every one aboard awaits A prize upon the high horizon. Hand and weapon! Heart and power! Cry it with the voice of Empire! Victory and prize and plunder! Vengeance flies at morning!
A ship that straddles the line between the main battleships and the lighter cruiser/destroyers generally by sacrificing armor for speed and guns, is usually what I think of them.
I take issue with " there has never been an existent space battlecruiser". What does that mean? Like, in the real world then sure, of course not. There's an extremely limited group of space designed craft, but you are asking a bunch of gamer nerds what they think of when you say Battle-cruiser. I'd expect it to be weirder if there was no sci-fi mentioned.
Additionally they exist in Sci-fi games (Starcraft for example has had a unit called the battle cruiser since it came out in the late 90s) and fiction. Heck, there is literally a novel called Battle Cruiser, and I'd be vaguely surprised in the Honor Harrington novels never used the term. Though it's possible they just used "cruiser", with out the "Battle".
The Death Star, because you hit it in the right place with a $1 projectile and boom the whole thing goes up.
Yeah, I'm joking, but not really, you can look it up, the Invincible and her sisters had the equivalent of thermal exhaust ports right atop their shell magazines.
I thought of Eve Online, which has battlecruisers. They're larger, slower, and more versatile than cruisers, but they're smaller, faster, and less versatile than battleships. In other words, they're what you use if you can't afford a battleship.
A failure of a vessel full of compromises. A paper tiger.
Also, SFB has battlecruisers, and it is canon (just a special sort of canon).
Also, if you want to talk messes of ship classification, in Babylon 5, Earth Force's biggest ship is the Omega Class Destroyer, because "destroyer" sounds cooler than cruiser or battleship..
Giant ass British and German armoured ships that were faster and lighter than rival ships on the water in WWI, and were widely redeployed and casualtied in WWII.
Of course Mo Jave thinks about historical warfare, and I wouldn't be surprised if she knew the histories of a few dozen women onboard battlecruisers. And had a rough guess as to how many of the crew were women.
William Nichols precious few, actually! The battlecruisers were deployed on protection detail for commerce ships. They were designed to chase down heavier ships and outmaneuver them, engaging in active battle.
The allied navies were some of the last division forces to allow women to service abroad (though notably in America were one of the first divisions of the American forces to allow black women to serve, and did much better by their female veterans of WWI/WWII, retaining their officer statuses, honourable discharges, full pensions and pay).
There were many, many women stationed on boats during the wars, but by and large the vast majority of them were deployed on ocean liners in commission as hospital ships. They served as nurses, radio operators, yeomen, electricians, pharmacists, dental professionals and more!
A giant ship that can carry smaller ships that is used for fighting. Space is implied by the compounding of the word to me; "battle cruiser" feels more like a potential boat.
Great big spaceship with logs of guns, intended for fighting.
ReplyDeleteNever understood why Galactica was a "Battlestar". It didn't have much in the way of weaponry and was intended to find and colonize The Twelfth Planet.
I thought the Galactica and other battlestars were designed for fighting the cylons?
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ReplyDeleteTwo for two on space stuff.
ReplyDeleteIs it weird that there has never been an existant space battlecruiser, but it's what we think?
I'm gonna go with "the Yamato" and cover all the bases.
ReplyDelete... and Tony thinks of a battle ship, not a battle cruiser.
ReplyDeleteBlowing raspberries at you :-P
ReplyDeleteMagic the Gathering and Star Craft.
ReplyDeleteThe guns are hot, the hull is ringing,
ReplyDeleteThe engines sing the sound of triumph;
And every one aboard awaits
A prize upon the high horizon.
Hand and weapon! Heart and power!
Cry it with the voice of Empire!
Victory and prize and plunder!
Vengeance flies at morning!
Star Realms comes to mindhttps://plus.google.com/photos/...
ReplyDeleteA ship that straddles the line between the main battleships and the lighter cruiser/destroyers generally by sacrificing armor for speed and guns, is usually what I think of them.
ReplyDeleteI take issue with " there has never been an existent space battlecruiser". What does that mean? Like, in the real world then sure, of course not. There's an extremely limited group of space designed craft, but you are asking a bunch of gamer nerds what they think of when you say Battle-cruiser. I'd expect it to be weirder if there was no sci-fi mentioned.
Additionally they exist in Sci-fi games (Starcraft for example has had a unit called the battle cruiser since it came out in the late 90s) and fiction. Heck, there is literally a novel called Battle Cruiser, and I'd be vaguely surprised in the Honor Harrington novels never used the term. Though it's possible they just used "cruiser", with out the "Battle".
That poetic answer from Andrew, the collective answer from Thomas, and the technically correct answer from Matt.
ReplyDeleteBadly designed British ships going up like firecrackers under plunging German fire.
ReplyDeleteDoes Star Wars have any ships you'd call a battlecruiser? Does Star Trek? What sort of crew do you need for a battlecruiser?
ReplyDeleteThe Death Star, because you hit it in the right place with a $1 projectile and boom the whole thing goes up.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm joking, but not really, you can look it up, the Invincible and her sisters had the equivalent of thermal exhaust ports right atop their shell magazines.
Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
ReplyDeleteI've never been a ship-geek so I used the google for this...
starwars.wikia.com - Battlecruiser/Legends
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_cruiser
So, yes they do, though they may not be the "popular" ships we know about.
With all those turbolasers and a clear mission of hunting down escaping ships, I'd be real tempted to classify star destroyers as battle cruisers.
ReplyDeleteCanonically, i know: they are destroyers. But they operate independently and have fire power and speed.
They also have a ridiculous number of ground troops and a fleet of TIEs and other small ships. I know.
But hey, star wars is all a mess.
Naval ship with big guns
ReplyDeleteI thought of Eve Online, which has battlecruisers. They're larger, slower, and more versatile than cruisers, but they're smaller, faster, and less versatile than battleships. In other words, they're what you use if you can't afford a battleship.
ReplyDeleteA failure of a vessel full of compromises. A paper tiger.
ReplyDeleteAlso, SFB has battlecruisers, and it is canon (just a special sort of canon).
Also, if you want to talk messes of ship classification, in Babylon 5, Earth Force's biggest ship is the Omega Class Destroyer, because "destroyer" sounds cooler than cruiser or battleship..
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ReplyDeleteI, too, actually think of star craft.
ReplyDeleteThe best sci-fi battlecruiser. It has a tiny crew of just three Time Travelers.
ReplyDeletecan be crewed by just one TT if it's a blue translucent mounting the gold chevron supercomputer chestpiece
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A politician who attends state functions looking for the next country to invade.
ReplyDeleteThere's an interesting difference on google image searching battlecruiser versus battlecruisers. Do you see what i see?
ReplyDeleteHAH.
ReplyDeleteThere' a lot more game footage for a lone ship search. That the suggested sub terms are the same is interesting to me.
ReplyDeleteI think "that's after the era of broadsiding, right?"
ReplyDeleteGiant ass British and German armoured ships that were faster and lighter than rival ships on the water in WWI, and were widely redeployed and casualtied in WWII.
ReplyDeleteLike the HMS Hood.
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Of course Mo Jave thinks about historical warfare, and I wouldn't be surprised if she knew the histories of a few dozen women onboard battlecruisers. And had a rough guess as to how many of the crew were women.
ReplyDeleteMatt Johnson right? That's weird to me.
ReplyDeleteLevi KornelsenYep, and with steel and coal and crap.
William Nichols precious few, actually! The battlecruisers were deployed on protection detail for commerce ships. They were designed to chase down heavier ships and outmaneuver them, engaging in active battle.
ReplyDeleteThe allied navies were some of the last division forces to allow women to service abroad (though notably in America were one of the first divisions of the American forces to allow black women to serve, and did much better by their female veterans of WWI/WWII, retaining their officer statuses, honourable discharges, full pensions and pay).
There were many, many women stationed on boats during the wars, but by and large the vast majority of them were deployed on ocean liners in commission as hospital ships. They served as nurses, radio operators, yeomen, electricians, pharmacists, dental professionals and more!
A giant ship that can carry smaller ships that is used for fighting. Space is implied by the compounding of the word to me; "battle cruiser" feels more like a potential boat.
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