I'm not sure if it's better for the old, evil, lying man to keep over and die, or publicly put on trial, sins an ills made public.
Both prevent future harm, and I don't know which causes more good or reduces the most harm.
Or, if there is some third option that I'm not thinking of.
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Which old evil fat man are we suffering with today? Or is he metaphorical?
ReplyDeleteWhy does his weight have anything to do with it?
ReplyDeleteYeah, can we stop with the fat part? Who cares what he weighs when he is literally killing people.
ReplyDeleteSwitched to the actual sin: the lying.
ReplyDeleteThank you. <3
ReplyDeleteThank you both: fatness is not a moral failing. Consistently lying about it (probably) is.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Nichols He's lied about being fat? If you mean he keeps saying he's healthy, you can be fat and healthy. He lies about all kinds of other, more important stuff, though.
ReplyDeleteEh. Consistently lying about weight is a product of fat shaming and is a coping mechanism in a vicious environment. It's not a moral failing, it's a sign of a sad state of affairs.
ReplyDeleteRelatedly, dying of natural causes is worse because 45 is primarily a symbol of systemic injustice. The harm he does is empowered, amplified and disseminated by entrenched systemic prejudice. Having him go to trial means the system is being applied in a more just way (at least this one time) and that symbolism would do a lot to counter the symbolism of his presidency.
For a case study, see the human rights trials for the leaders of the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot died before capture, and other leaders have died from old age due to corruption slowing down the trial proceedings. But despite the old age and lack of power of the leaders, trials were continually pushed forward.
So, have a trial even if natural causes?
ReplyDeleteWell, what's the average wait time for those charged and awaiting trial (some being held in detentions facilities)? How many resources will this take and what other issues will be set aside to put on a show trial? With no hope of punishment (which is the purpose of the current court system) or rehab (which some folks are trying to make it about), what's the purpose other than propaganda?
ReplyDeleteLike, my point is that the system has to be seen as functioning as intended, in the spirit of justice.
I mean, a third option is "fix the system", thereby reestablishing the checks and balances that would curtail 45's power.
Or even a popular vote with option of removal by, say, a vote of two thirds of the people. That' for sure get us some different presidents.
ReplyDeleteAs long as we're not calling him fat anymore, is there a reason we're calling him old? Would he be a better person if he were 24?
ReplyDeleteExcellent point.
ReplyDelete> Would he be a better person if he were 24?
ReplyDeleteMaybe with less dementia.
William Nicholshe does not have dementia.
ReplyDeleteMo Jave I think I'd like a professional examination before deciding if he does/doesn't have dementia.
ReplyDeleteLess stigmatizing the mentally I'll. He's not crazy, he's an asshole. I know plenty of people with actual mental illness who are horrified by his behavior.
ReplyDeleteBrian Ashford he doesn't demonstrate either the symptomatic spectrum of any type of dementia nor the degenerative progression associated with it. A person with any stage of dementia meriting an actual diagnosis of dementia could not maintain a presidental schedule. You might also like a professional examination to determine if he has Syphilis, but it's not really relevant to anything at all.
ReplyDeleteMost importantly he doesn't deserve the empathy that would accompany a diagnosis of dementia so why align those concepts, even snidely?
Mo Jave I've read a few articles showing that there has been a masked degeneration in his communication abilities since the start of the campaign.
ReplyDeleteAlso, everyone who might have mental illness deserves a diagnosis, however much of a fuckmuppet they are.
Brian Ashford You are in Britian, so you may not know that's a really shitty word to those of us over the pond. I'm fine with you and Mo having a discussion, I am not fine with gendered slurs. Please change it.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Nichols Apologies. First word that came to mind.
ReplyDeleteUnderstood words are different over there.
ReplyDeleteContinue on. "fuckmuppet" is a word I find acceptable in this context; that guy is a fuckmuppet.
Brian Ashford yes, there are also articles that he is in communication with aliens and that his Diet Coke addiction is giving his Alzheimer's. That doesn't make sensational conjecture true.
ReplyDeleteEveryone with a mental illness deserves a diagnosis (though I am not sure exactly what "deserves" constitutes in that context) is different than randos deciding that the president has one because they want a way to mock him and find mental health, or fatness or age a lazy and convenient way to do so.
Besides, I did not say he did not deserve a diagnosis if he had a a mental illness. I said he doesn't deserve the empathy of somone who actually has one.